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Wednesday 20th of January 2021, 12:44
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82.42.102.79 | Wed 30th Sep 2020 - 16:05
 
What’s the likely hood of worlds going ahead?
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51.219.131.66 | Wed 30th Sep 2020 - 16:24
 
Worlds might go ahead.... whether teams from the UK will be able to get there and back without quarantining on at least one end is a different question
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213.205.240.182 | Wed 30th Sep 2020 - 20:00
 
Not for U.K. athletes

No comps in lead up it so teams wouldn’t be ready and I would imagine FCO will still advise against travel, so no insurance means no travel to a place like USA
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185.69.145.126 | Wed 30th Sep 2020 - 21:14
 
Worlds will never go ahead 2021 , If everyone really honest there will be no Uk comps either
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92.40.193.43 | Wed 30th Sep 2020 - 21:50
 
Yeah, we might have some virtual comps but I cant see us having anything like it normally would be until at least the summer time.
Jamfest, ICC, fc Bournemouth are all set to be back to back weekends if they do manage to do them, be interesting to see what happens but I'm not holding my breath.
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79.76.132.104 | Wed 30th Sep 2020 - 22:25
 
Kinda hoping worlds will get pushed back too and a miracle happens so we can go
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94.195.120.171 | Thu 1st Oct 2020 - 10:09
 
I feel like it’s really selfish of USASF to still be holding worlds in April , Austria teams have already had to officially pull and more will follow. Worlds isn’t worlds without every country being able to go . The state America is in right now we would be insane to think we are safe to go over there . I think there will be a list of country’s unable to attend and I think USASF should be taking the pressure of everyone and at least pushing it later into 2021
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151.228.202.97 | Thu 1st Oct 2020 - 11:08
 
@post7, USASF and IASF worlds are different just so you know. Most of our teams attend under IASF both can choose different roads
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94.195.120.171 | Thu 1st Oct 2020 - 11:16
 
Yes I am aware thank you
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82.42.102.79 | Thu 1st Oct 2020 - 12:02
 
It’s a shame the usasf don’t let international teams know what’s happening, as if teams have to cancel there flights it’s u likely they will get refunded
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Purplerain (11) | Thu 1st Oct 2020 - 12:55
 
@post10, again it isn't USASF it is IASF and Les Stella
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213.205.241.12 | Thu 1st Oct 2020 - 13:50
 
As horrible as it would be to miss another year it’s a no brainer that the best thing to do would be to cancel .the majority of International teams will not be able to travel . Right now we can barley train? And if tight restrictions stay until March then the chances of doing any sort of contact sport before then is slim . How are we expected to full prepare in a month?

It angers me that they are leaving this down to coaches at the moment
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82.42.102.79 | Thu 1st Oct 2020 - 15:14
 
Uk teams will have to start booking flights etc is it fair for them to do so knowing that it may well not go ahead ?
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94.195.120.171 | Thu 1st Oct 2020 - 16:02
 
I have quite a lot of parents sceptical to book and I don’t blame them , i feel in such a difficult position they have clung on to the hope they will finally get to take their routine to worlds 2021 and I don’t want to throw the towel in but at the same time in my heart of hearts I feel like it’s inevitable It will be canvelled anyway

Is it wrong to give up now or am I prolonging the inevitable
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92.40.193.192 | Thu 1st Oct 2020 - 16:56
 
I cant see how it's going to go ahead but I also see them pulling everything they can in order so it does. It's a tough one either way, maybe let the kids parents decide by a vote and go with the majority?
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85.255.237.100 | Thu 1st Oct 2020 - 17:53
 
Maybe it will get moved to later in the year
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84.64.202.62 | Sun 4th Oct 2020 - 20:58
 
girls where is all the positivity here! we have to stick together as a union and have faith in journal we can learn something from this experience now trust and trust and trust best wishes speak soon take care!
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88.108.88.179 | Sun 4th Oct 2020 - 21:01
 
Yes I have to agree, positivity all the way!!!!
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84.64.202.62 | Sun 4th Oct 2020 - 21:03
 
@post18, exactamonto! you know how far positivity can go in this wee cheer world you & I must use our power of positivity to conquer the cheer world!
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79.76.132.104 | Mon 5th Oct 2020 - 10:16
 
We all have hope but it’s hard when it seems that competitions won’t happen for a long time
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86.143.92.248 | Mon 5th Oct 2020 - 21:29
 
Maybe they will do it virtual???? Majors is going virtual
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85.255.232.86 | Thu 5th Nov 2020 - 21:07
 
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92.40.188.86 | Sat 7th Nov 2020 - 11:10
 
Varsity are confident that NCA will go ahead in February. I think it’s likely borders will be open in April to travel, but it’s if UK teams will be ready
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94.0.242.204 | Sat 7th Nov 2020 - 12:15
 
Biden is the next president mask mandates borders closed lockdowns implemented you all have a screw loose if you think worlds is happening
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90.201.140.112 | Sun 8th Nov 2020 - 06:50
 
I was due to go to Florida in April (not for worlds) and our flights have been cancelled already. Can't see and UK teams being able to compete!
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81.151.13.12 | Sun 8th Nov 2020 - 15:51
 
@post25 where are you from and who was you flying with?
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109.152.108.22 | Mon 9th Nov 2020 - 08:37
 
I'd be surprised if world's goes ahead for UK teams this season. You will have missed out on so much training, even once the current measures are lifted you still won't go back to full training - there will still be limited contact.

I think this season is going to be a bit of a write off. We should focus on fitness, conditioning and training (when we can)
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82.42.102.79 | Mon 9th Nov 2020 - 10:37
 
America is running normal by looks of the ca showcase
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92.40.192.221 | Mon 9th Nov 2020 - 11:58
 
Worlds will be virtual I think
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88.107.245.57 | Mon 9th Nov 2020 - 13:54
 
Looks like teams are already being given option of carrying summit bids over to 2022 so doubt worlds will be going ahead.
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51.179.143.18 | Mon 9th Nov 2020 - 14:35
 
I'd love Worlds to be virtual so that teams can compete even if they can't travel. As the IASF carried over the age grid, a lot of teams are now on their second year of training for Worlds so for me, personally, I'd rather teams get to showcase the routine. Everyone is at a similar standing point, and honestly, if it's virtual there's not the same nerves so being a little under-prepared (as long as it is SAFE) is not the worst thing. No team will be as prepared as usual as half of this season and half of last season has been a write-off.
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92.40.192.221 | Mon 9th Nov 2020 - 14:47
 
It would be great if they did something.
So if the bids carried over then no bids given out this year? I cant see many teams going if we do get in person events by the end of the year if their is no bids unless it's close by.
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92.0.94.52 | Mon 9th Nov 2020 - 23:34
 
Would love worlds to be pushed back to the summer and still go ahead
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82.132.219.58 | Wed 11th Nov 2020 - 13:28
 
Team Scotland have pulled out :-(
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82.42.102.79 | Sat 21st Nov 2020 - 11:41
 
is uk teams ever going to be ready to compete ? Are people still training for worlds ??
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81.159.131.134 | Sat 21st Nov 2020 - 17:20
 
@post35, I think this season will be a write off. I don't think we'll be back into full cheer for a while into 2021. Teams should use this current time to condition and once we can stunt they should use this year to train and build on skills
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31.49.100.58 | Sun 22nd Nov 2020 - 16:43
 
American teams yes but U.K. teams no
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82.132.228.117 | Sun 22nd Nov 2020 - 17:34
 
Worlds is still another 5 months away, with the vaccine coming out soon a lot can change and can help us gain control of the virus. Even if it means the athletes must quarantine before and after let’s have hope we will have some sort of normality soon. Imagine as a coach telling your athletes there’s no point as they won’t get to worlds. Not saying it’s going to 100% happen, but let’s be hopeful as well as reasonable
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185.59.125.107 | Mon 23rd Nov 2020 - 11:54
 
Last year we had world's taken away from us and I still haven't got a full refund from insurance, my claim is still pending and my whole team are in various stages of the same.

This year I made the call not to try out for a world's team and honestly with hindsight it was the best decision. Training has been so bleak as an adult, spending money and travelling every week for training, endless conditioning, jumps and tumbles with sassy choreo and no stunts...

I'm 28, I work full time and with all the lockdowns my tumbling is barely staying put. My full is still only passable and with no opportunity to open gym it's all home conditioning.

My friends on worlds team have described hope excitiment has turned to hope and then to resigned disappointment as time has gone on. People are debating dropping out and not putting down the money with a December deadline. Doesn't matter if a vaccine lands January 1st. At this rate no one wants to commit the money for a chance at world's. I honestly don't blame them
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193.62.57.51 | Mon 23rd Nov 2020 - 12:26
 
At this point I think it would be better for UK teams to take the year to build skills and work on new, innovative routines for the following year. Worlds in 2021 even if it goes ahead it won't be the same, and it's a lot of money to put up for it to get cancelled again.
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92.40.190.156 | Mon 23rd Nov 2020 - 13:03
 
Can’t see any teams from uk going and if they do I hardly doubt they will be at a good enough standard to make it worth it.

Worlds isn’t a luxury holiday. It’s a very expensive chance to represent the country and program, I don’t think coaches should be taking sub standard routines.

With so much time off and only a few teams having stunted (against the rules expect the one week we had once the rtp was approved) I can’t see any teams being ready for any UK comps come March let alone worlds in April especially as most eps have now pushed back dates so theres only really the virtual events and these are not a true representation of a run through as you can keep filming until you do a good run (that don’t happen at worlds).
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82.42.102.79 | Mon 23rd Nov 2020 - 14:12
 
Well actually you only get one chance at filming for the virtual comps and a certain amount of time to record your routines. Maybe you should check the face before you have a state to say
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109.249.184.167 | Mon 23rd Nov 2020 - 16:16
 
My guess is it will be virtual. It's not being held at Disneyland if you see the latest info.
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109.249.184.167 | Mon 23rd Nov 2020 - 20:15
 
Does anyone know if bids for worlds or the summit will be given out this year? Iv seen a few teams saying bids are valid in 2021 so I was wondering if that meant no events will give out bids this year?
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82.17.143.34 | Mon 23rd Nov 2020 - 23:18
 
@post43 where does it say it’s not being held at Disney? I agree, teams shouldn’t just aim for worlds and should use this year to push themselves further for next season. But shouldn’t see this whole season as a write off, possibly half a competition season but a full training and progressing season
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109.249.184.167 | Tue 24th Nov 2020 - 00:41
 
@post43 on the ESPN website it says it wont be held there this year but there is no info from varisty on where it is to be held
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109.249.184.167 | Tue 24th Nov 2020 - 00:47
 
https://www.espnwwos.com/sports/cheer/

All events for next year have been removed
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80.189.218.208 | Tue 24th Nov 2020 - 11:26
 
The Cheer and Dance Worlds websites are still saying at Disney on the normal dates
I'm surprised they haven't announced anything if ESPN are saying otherwise. Maybe its an error. The College Championships have only just been moved to also be in April - currently right between Worlds and Summit - so I'd find it a bit strange for them to be planning this but already cancelling Worlds and Summit for even the US teams.
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92.232.33.9 | Tue 24th Nov 2020 - 12:19
 
@post47 I'm confused when I click that link worlds is there?? Along with ICU, UCA/UDA and summits
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80.189.218.208 | Tue 24th Nov 2020 - 13:07
 
@post49 It does say in the description for ICU Summits and Worlds that it's postponed and to visit the event website for more details - but then when you visit those websites it doesn't mention a postponement. I'm wondering if it's a holdover description from earlier this year and is an error?
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82.42.102.79 | Mon 30th Nov 2020 - 23:10
 
It’s changed again, does this mean it’s going ahead now ?
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80.189.218.208 | Tue 1st Dec 2020 - 12:00
 
As of yet they haven't cancelled / moved it yet to my knowledge. Doesn't mean they won't closer to the date though
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82.132.231.166 | Wed 2nd Dec 2020 - 12:17
 
How long does everyone think it will be till we can stunt again ?! (Us adults, lucky under 18s)
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18.130.237.64 | Fri 4th Dec 2020 - 01:09
 
I think it will be nearer the spring time.
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86.130.0.0 | Wed 13th Jan 2021 - 08:28
 
Are any teams going to worlds ???
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79.76.143.38 | Wed 13th Jan 2021 - 13:14
 
Is worlds on then?
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148.64.26.56 | Wed 13th Jan 2021 - 14:25
 
cov and unity pulled out!
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86.168.26.50 | Fri 15th Jan 2021 - 17:00
 
You'd be mad to go as a UK team! They cannot train and the vaccine is not going to be widespread enough in time
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79.76.143.38 | Fri 15th Jan 2021 - 22:03
 
Worlds is going ahead for us teams
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90.203.224.237 | Fri 15th Jan 2021 - 22:12
 
Jamfest are holding a Comp in Ohio this weekend
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91.110.129.25 | Sat 16th Jan 2021 - 02:51
 
With the announcement of Worlds it just shows these cash hungry companies are putting profit over lives. Disgusting
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92.40.170.146 | Sat 16th Jan 2021 - 21:42
 
If it was to run and international teams entered virtually
Would you pay the normal registration fee?
What time would you have to compete?
Realistically when will we next be in a gym training ? Late March ??
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185.59.125.107 | Sat 16th Jan 2021 - 23:38
 
@post62

No chance we will be training late march, lockdown won't end till late march then we will have a slow return.

Honestly if you are over 18 you aren't stunting this season
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194.35.233.46 | Tue 19th Jan 2021 - 12:14
 
It's easy to jump on USASF and criticising them for moving forward with Worlds but don't forget they are probably in a multi year contract with Disney to host the event with financial penalties payable if they pull out.

They are between a rock and a hard place. By continuing with the event knowing full well many international teams won't attend, and taking some criticism, they can most likely still gain some enrolment from US teams and cover their costs to keep their business afloat.

To cancel completely would probably push them under with the penalties incurred and Worlds would disappear completely.

Last year was different, Disney World Resort was actually closed. But this year it's not and Disney have probably confirmed to USASF that they can hold the event safely.

Sometimes you need to look at the bigger picture and take the unpopular decisions now to ensure your business stays afloat for the long term.
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151.227.121.18 | Wed 20th Jan 2021 - 12:44
 
@post64 USASF have said it will either be virtual or in person. Which sounds to me like they aren't sure of the position with Disney either. Disneyworld still haven't opened half of their hotels up. They have reduced capacity in all parks. I'm struggling to imagine Disneyworld is forcing USASF to run their event right now. Its in Disney's interest to let this year slide again and not encourage thousands of teenagers onto Disney property.
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@post64 USASF have said it will either be virtual or in person. Which sounds to me like they aren't sure of the position with Disney either. Disneyworld still haven't opened half of their hotels up. They have reduced capacity in all parks. I'm struggling to imagine Disneyworld is forcing USASF to run their event right now. Its in Disney's interest to let this year slide again and not encourage thousands of teenagers onto Disney property.
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