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Scotcheer June 2019
Tuesday 25th of June 2019, 16:58
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89.242.190.146 | Mon 17th Jun 2019 - 20:42
 
Who you looking forward to seeing this weekend, is there a running order out yet and how many Worlds bids do they give out?
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2.222.70.9 | Tue 18th Jun 2019 - 23:43
 
Running order out on their Facebook page
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81.103.27.53 | Wed 19th Jun 2019 - 01:03
 
Anyone else think it’s crazy that Scotcheer still get bids to give out, considering there was no nationals last year and also that even while this years event is fairly busy, it’s nothing compared to what it used to be
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213.205.242.119 | Wed 19th Jun 2019 - 01:30
 
How many Dance bids do they have to give out?
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90.197.41.232 | Wed 19th Jun 2019 - 08:36
 
1 Pp and 1 AL i think
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194.82.180.195 | Wed 19th Jun 2019 - 14:17
 
@post3, not really, they have been pretty committed to promoting Scottish cheerleading and even though there has been some set backs throughout the years they were the first big comp and are still going. Why should they not give bids out?
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213.205.241.85 | Wed 19th Jun 2019 - 15:38
 
I just think it doesn’t compare to other big giving events in the UK
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86.128.83.224 | Wed 19th Jun 2019 - 22:22
 
I think Scotcheer has had sooooo many issues in the past, obviously with the owner being so ill, passing away and since I believe the management of it has switched a few times and just seemed badly run for many many years. Hopefully this is the start of a build up again, as the posts seem to be very positive and I love the coaches lanyards they’ve done - such a small thing, but shows that it won’t be as haphazard and disorganised as the past. Fingers crossed
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82.28.31.194 | Thu 20th Jun 2019 - 01:04
 
i would think most people that can remember scotcheer of old remember it well, it's going to take a while to build up that trust in them again. Two years ago was shocking with the whole set up, the late finishes, safety issues and having to clear off the floor, random singing contests because they just could not think of anything else to fill in the time waiting, scores being wrong in so many divisions. i'm glad or them a lot of teams seem to be giving them the benefit of the doubt but it's going to take a lot more than lanyards for the coaches to prove themselves again
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89.243.176.218 | Thu 20th Jun 2019 - 07:06
 
Running order looks like it is back to back judging from the one panel I worry that Sunday in particularly could easily run very late !
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86.8.201.95 | Thu 20th Jun 2019 - 07:31
 
is it online? someone said it's on the facebook page but i could not see it
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81.103.27.53 | Thu 20th Jun 2019 - 09:38
 
They have a new fb page, Scotcheer HQ and it’s on there
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176.250.225.233 | Thu 20th Jun 2019 - 12:05
 
Steve Murphy was a total cock up for scotcheer - they are slowly getting back on their feet again ! Thank god
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94.14.151.44 | Thu 20th Jun 2019 - 12:34
 
Let's not pass the buck and blame Steve Murphy! There was plenty of ppl around him experienced in Cheer competitions to pass advice (such as how a dual panel works!)
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213.205.241.57 | Thu 20th Jun 2019 - 13:45
 
Is that Steve who owes boss ?
Seen he’s running a comp with Kerry from Cheer festival next year
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85.255.234.74 | Thu 20th Jun 2019 - 14:29
 
Yes it is . Cheer festival seems to biggest in Scotland now ?
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213.205.241.7 | Thu 20th Jun 2019 - 14:45
 
@post9, are you going? Sounds like you've had a first hand bad expirence. From the changes sounds like it's going to be different this year
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94.197.121.198 | Thu 20th Jun 2019 - 17:29
 
While ever Jo Walls is still in charge it will continue to be a complete joke! She ran that company into the ground after Steve died.
It will never be the same, way too much has happened and Scotcheer has lost the love from Scotland. Way too many Scottish comps now that are much better in every way, shape and form for them to try and claw back any integrity. Cheer Festival is prob the best Scottish owned company now with BCA, and Legacy both providing great events in Scotland. FC isn’t always bad and if desperate there is ACDC (if you don’t mind biased judging).
Most teams are only going Scotcheer this weekend out of respect for Steve’s name and what he started. After this years anniversary it will become a dying duck again.
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2.222.70.9 | Thu 20th Jun 2019 - 18:03
 
@post18, I really hope you never have to be in her shoes after going through that and trying to keep it all going. Nice
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90.198.28.140 | Thu 20th Jun 2019 - 18:15
 
utterly shocking @post18.......i hope Jo Walls never sees this forum or that message.......utterly heartbroken for Jo/Steve and ScotCheer........GO FIGHT WIN!!!!
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2.222.70.9 | Thu 20th Jun 2019 - 18:32
 
For one I'm impressed of how it's looking. Seems like they are on the ball this year for some reason. More professional and focused. Hope @post18 is nowhere near the comp this weekend what a hateful negative person. Feel sorry for the team they are affiliated with.
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89.242.190.146 | Thu 20th Jun 2019 - 20:01
 
Predictions?
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176.250.225.233 | Fri 21st Jun 2019 - 10:24
 
@post18, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 oh hello kerrie love
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2.222.70.9 | Fri 21st Jun 2019 - 14:32
 
@post23, spot on 😂😂
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88.98.240.187 | Sat 22nd Jun 2019 - 18:46
 
Any results from today?
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90.197.41.232 | Sat 22nd Jun 2019 - 20:00
 
cdc 1st youth 1, junior 2
black diamonds 1st junior 1
sls 1st senior 2
rockstar 1st senior 3
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82.132.216.155 | Sat 22nd Jun 2019 - 20:12
 
Scoring was a shambles. Not working to rubric!!
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213.205.241.123 | Sat 22nd Jun 2019 - 20:32
 
@post27, agree but the girls rectified what looked like one person's huge error. Spoke to them a few times about sheets and they should be proud. Hope it goes better tomorrow for dance and a diferent judge.

It's one thing for a problem to happen and for nothing to be done than taking it head on and doing everything to can to rectify
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85.255.232.36 | Sat 22nd Jun 2019 - 20:33
 
Not good enough when teams are paying alot of money to enter competitions
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89.243.176.218 | Sat 22nd Jun 2019 - 20:49
 
Everything was sorted before awards and I am sure scotcheer have learned a lesson about judge selection
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213.205.242.193 | Sat 22nd Jun 2019 - 22:08
 
did they have a safety judge today ?
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176.250.225.233 | Sat 22nd Jun 2019 - 23:38
 
Possibly the worst comp I have attended in a long time ! I cannot believe people still slag cheer festival and ACDC when scotcheer is our worlds bid comp and this is what they produce ! Disgusted to say the least!

Scoring teams 6/5 5.5/5
Scoring teams low because the didn’t meet 4 pyramid structures when the rubric clearly says 2!
Not deducting teams for clear stunt falls but deducting other teams for apparent illegalities that they couldn’t explain . Absolute JOKE

A judge from the panel messaging a girl from SLS saying OMG amazing routine which the girl published on snapchat - real professional

Oh not to mention they were near 2 hours late

Not looking forward to day 2 at all!

Furious
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213.205.241.93 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 00:11
 
Sorry we had a good time excited for tmrw
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176.250.225.233 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 00:30
 
I have no hope for tomorrow what so ever !
Never seen score sheets like it in my life 😣 you spend so much time working your routine to the grid and they totally disregard it. The most expensive we have attended this year and there was no sprung floor and warm up music we couldn’t use all day because it was a Walkman from 1995 ? Not one of my teams got to do a run to music? My parents and kids are so angry at the money they have spent for such a poor comp.
My scoring was also a shambles, completely different to what we have had all season. We have 8 in our team and have 2 stunt groups of 4 - we got 3.5/5 for stunt quantity (the lowest you can score is 3.5) . We were a clear 5 but the judges could not in any way understand this ? Lost for words
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92.232.248.76 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 01:13
 
@post13 - Of course no one knows who you are because of this cowardly forum... but the thing that you're forgetting in your horrific comment is that Steve Murphy had to pick up after HIS Uncle Steve passed away and learn absolutely everything there was to know about running Cheerleading events with no guidance except notes and emails left behind by Steve Walls. That to me is an absolutely mammoth task and to make out like all he did was make mistakes and was a total 'cock up' is an absolutely disgraceful comment to make! 😠

I would love to see you try and do what he did... I think he did an outstanding job given that his hands were always tied and had no one there to advise him on anything (except take feedback after each event and move forward) EVERY detail used in Scotcheer's Nationals this weekend was due to him and Steve Walls' hard work! The banners, the graphic designs, everything!! I think the guy deserves a lot more credit than is being given to him! Also have you been to a BOSS competition? It's a fun relaxed atmosphere, runs on time and has a great selection of top judges who attend in order to help coaches and athletes progress within the sport! It's also worth noting that he named the company 'BOSS' in honour of his late uncle Steve too? Shows that his heart was and still is in the right place... Unlike yourself.
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213.205.242.193 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 06:12
 
Scot cheer is a crap comp , Running order looked rubbish , Then the usual Instagram posts , x ,y ,z we all got 1st but wait there was 1 other team in your division and it's a team its never been heard of.
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92.7.68.229 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 07:42
 
As much as he may be trying his best and all our sympathies are with him, if you are taking money off programs they expect a certain level of service. Coaches have to answer to parents who pay the entry fees, spectator tickets etc and I’m sure “he’s doing his best” isn’t going to cut it with them. It’s been a long time now so there is no excuse for a lot of the things people are complaining about. IMO if Scotcheer Nationals is going to run it needs to be done properly so that the coaches, dancers and parents are happy or not at all. Full sympathy to Steve but that doesn’t mean he can take people’s money and give a poor experience
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213.205.241.93 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 08:35
 
@post35. Hi Steve
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92.232.248.76 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 10:39
 
@post37 - He doesn't work at Scotcheer?
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92.232.248.76 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 10:48
 
@post35 😂 Wrong again
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92.232.248.76 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 10:49
 
** @post38
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85.255.232.13 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 16:17
 
Never have a proper knowledgable safety judge, judges don't score correctly, always running so late what a load of rubbish, give them feedback and they don't listen so what is the point in returning
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81.131.98.231 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 21:35
 
Results?
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85.255.232.123 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 21:47
 
What teams for the worlds bids?
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85.255.232.6 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 22:04
 
No Partial Paid Bid??
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185.69.145.163 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 22:21
 
Bids - Phoenix Junior Hiphop
Firebird Senior

Rockstar Senior Jazz

Phoenix Junior Pom
CDC Senior
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213.160.112.2 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 22:39
 
No PP?
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89.242.176.159 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 23:00
 
No it was only all at large bids
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94.197.120.250 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 23:51
 
looks like it was a great day for Phoenix flames
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81.103.27.53 | Sun 23rd Jun 2019 - 23:52
 
Does Phoenix flames Senior pom have a bid already
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86.128.83.224 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 00:04
 
Ya they have a BCA bid
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85.255.237.58 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 00:15
 
At large they don't have p/p
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213.205.241.82 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 00:32
 
Cdc pink highest score tiny - youth
Cdc black highest score junior - senior

Sniff fix sniff
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94.174.99.235 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 00:33
 
I’d say the fix was with cheer.
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86.128.83.224 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 00:33
 
Alternatively they were the best of the day. Not everything is a fix lol. Junior - senior they absolutely deserved it was showstopping
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85.255.234.67 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 00:56
 
Definitely no proper safety judge! Saw a few out of level stunts being performed and it didn’t seem to matter at all 🙄
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86.14.126.49 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 09:48
 
Fantastic Scotcheer! Great competition all round.
Can someone clear something up for me ..... who is head coach of Firebird?? I seen they were only team with two coaches to go up at coaches prizes although only head coach was asked for? In all my years coaching before I had my own school I would never have dared walk up with the head coach. All my coaches sat down when head coach was asked to go up as did every other team. I would have been so angry if another one of my coaches came onto the mat with me. Heard a few people talking about it.
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176.250.225.233 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 09:52
 
@post57, OMG get a grip 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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86.180.118.227 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 09:59
 
That’s the most stupidest comment ever several programmes had more than one coach on the Matt
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80.195.12.34 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 11:57
 
@post57 many of the programmes had more than one coach go up on that Mat, i don’t see why you would have been angry with that if one of your coaches who has helped you all season went up with you? If I’m right I think firebird has only two coaches who work together and think of themselves as equals in times like that which I think is fair as they should both then get the recognition for their hard work rather than the one. All performances on the Saturday and Sunday were amazing! Also people saying it was a fix!! Come on? each and every team who got placed first regardless if cdc got more than one, everyone deserved it! And All Bid winners were amazing and can’t wait what they take to the worlds stage!
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94.174.99.235 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 12:40
 
That’s is true all the routines were amazing but I don’t understand how teams can drop stunts miss our running tumble sections and still place above teams that hit a fully maxed out clean routine
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85.255.237.72 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 12:44
 
Maybe it's time Scotcheer hand over the Worlds Bids status to another EP! Not good enough when there are better, reputable EP's offering better competitions in Scotland!!
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176.250.225.233 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 13:04
 
@post61, what division was this
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82.29.6.35 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 13:28
 
Who was judging over the weekend ?
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176.250.225.233 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 13:36
 
@post64, morons
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88.98.240.187 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 13:49
 
dance judges seemed like they had more of a clue
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81.151.203.125 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 13:49
 
@post57 I understand what you are saying however ‘head coach’ is the person who runs the programme and is in charge of all teams. For example Goldstar have multiple coaches however everyone knows Claire is the head coach and would recognise this. And all would know never to disrespect Claire by feeling equal to her. The conversation I had was just from another team saying that one of the coaches is trying to present herself as a head coach when they’re not. There are three coaches for firebird ? Other coach didn’t go up though which I find strange. From social media, 1 coach does youth Hiphop & the head coach and other coach do pom teams together but all other teams and rest of school is ran by the head coach. Any head coach knows the amount that goes into running a programme, I Feel as an employed coach you should know that the authority and head position does not lie with you and respect this. Also I am clearly not only one to think this as a conversation was made about it after coming off the floor.
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81.151.203.125 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 13:59
 
Also don’t think they deserved their Hiphop bid. They were good but CDC definitely better
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213.205.241.20 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 14:48
 
Where did cdc finish in Hiphop?
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80.195.12.34 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 14:49
 
@post69 3rd place
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80.195.12.34 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 15:08
 
@post68 There were 10 points between 1st and 2nd in senior hip hop though which means even more between 1st and 3rd. Coming from a coach who has been in this industry for many years now, I don’t think cdc hip hop was up to their usual standards which was disappointing, still a good routine but nothing outstanding. I thought cdc deserved to beat firebird back at scotcheer in Dundee but not this time around. However each team deserved there place in that division. I’m glad another team is getting the opportunity for a worlds bid and we can see some new talent out on the floor! Watching firebirds hip hop team come out for their first ever year competing you’d be crazy to say they did not deserve that bid. A lot of conversation took place after watching them at BCA Newcastle as they completely smashed it there too! Although dazzlers were also great so any team who would’ve got that bid would have deserved it!
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176.250.225.233 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 15:10
 
Cdc were saying earlier in the day they expected firebird to win they were totally cool with it. But dazzalers ? Second the whole place couldn’t stop talking about it there is no way they should have bet cdc flames and sls 😳 that was a crazy decision by the judges
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213.205.241.20 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 15:11
 
Who came 2nd then, bit confused with the cdc firebird thing
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80.195.12.34 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 15:12
 
Dazzlers came 2nd
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213.205.241.20 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 15:14
 
@post71 Just read it thanks for clearing that up
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89.242.176.159 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 15:16
 
Scores in senior pom anyone?
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176.250.225.233 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 15:17
 
On website
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80.195.12.34 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 15:19
 
@post76 I think it was
1st senior Pom - cdc black
2nd - Phoenix flames elite
3rd - firebird ice
That’s all I can remember from the day however not sure on scores
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90.205.170.203 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 15:22
 
Firebird were outstanding and I agree -be great to see a new Scottish team at worlds as for years it's been flames, jc, gpldstar and CDC mainly.. firebird deserved their win and bid..well done..definitely a team to watch out for. They beat flames at scotcheer in Dundee. I would say it was so close between all top 3 teams in pom on Sunday however CDC always seem to have that something special above other teams - they came 6th at worlds so wouldn't expect anything different. Thought both flames and firebird were extremely strong though. Well done everyone! World's will be interesting next year !
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80.195.12.34 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 15:29
 
@post71 and @post79 couldn’t agree more!
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188.29.164.230 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 15:31
 
Who was the coach that went up with the head coach? Wow they should have been more respectful to the head coach and give her the time to be recognised.
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213.205.241.82 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 15:35
 
Omg why are yous actually caring clearly Natalie was happy to have Alana by her side they were never apart the whole day . Get over it freaks !
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80.195.12.34 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 15:39
 
Did anyone else’s athletes find the lines to be closer than usual? Causing it to feel tighter?
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89.242.176.159 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 15:52
 
Post @77 what website?? None comes up for Scotcheer
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188.29.164.230 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 16:02
 
Who is Alana ... is she a qualified coach? Never heard of her before but seemed that people didn’t agree she had gone up on stage with the head coach of the programme
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185.69.144.253 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 16:26
 
Firebird well deserved beat cdc , they were much better but not so sure if dazzlers should have beaten cdc
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82.132.218.143 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 16:47
 
@post85 I think Alana used to coach for gold star if I’m correct? I know she trained with them for a bit, I think she is the Pom coach at firebird and as far as I’m aware is fully qualified.
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86.139.130.159 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 16:47
 
Thought cdc black just brought the house down they were on another level! Phoenix flames junior pom was also outstanding so fierce
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213.205.241.109 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 16:50
 
Rockstar Jazz was outstanding, so exciting to watch
As was Black and flames
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82.132.218.143 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 16:51
 
Expected nothing less from cdc black! Amazing as always and 6th in the world so would’ve only made sense they came 1st at scotcheer! Phoenix flames were close competitors though and firebird ice really shocked us too!
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82.132.218.143 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 16:53
 
@post86 I agree however I do think dazzlers were really good as well!!
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78.86.36.117 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 17:02
 
Flames impressed me so much yesterday, you can tell they got a shock at worlds they look so much stronger and the routine totally different! Their junior routines were outstanding.
Firebird HH deserved to win that section and so did Rockstar, their jazz was insane.
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89.243.176.218 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 17:04
 
No need for the negativity on here. Yesterday was far better than cheer day and the sportmanship at the event was amazing. Saw so many kids from other teams at the front cheering people on or waiting for people coming off the floor to say well done. We are so lucky to have so many talented coaches and athletes that the competition is so tight, this especially applies to the younger teams my god how amazing are our world's teams going to be when they are older!!

This makes Scottish dance seem so bitchy and actually it wasn't like that at all yesterday!!
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213.205.241.96 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 18:27
 
@post93, your right it really wasn't bitchy at all yesterday I saw so many teams congratulating each other and it was lovely to see coaches get along aswell it's this website that makes Scottish dance seem bitchy
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90.255.132.120 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 20:02
 
I personally think all this negativity is so unnecessary, firebird 100% deserved their hip hop bid yesterday, there is no doubt about it!! It’s sad that dazzlers are put down so much when in fact they are 8th in the world which is incredible! And to be a team of less than 10 yet hold their own and beat significantly larger teams is amazing!
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90.204.12.34 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 23:04
 
What are everyone’s thoughts on cdc lime junior Pom ?
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213.205.241.67 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 23:10
 
@post96, baring in mind they are juniors therefore under 15 and not required to be subjected to an onslaught on a forum!
Not that they deserve one they were amazing
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213.205.241.109 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 23:27
 
They were amazing the top three in that division all were
1.Flames
2.Cdc
3.Rockstar
All fab routines, a hard division
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86.158.116.52 | Mon 24th Jun 2019 - 23:35
 
@post87 Alana did not coach dance for goldstar lol. Who makes up these things
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80.195.12.34 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 00:28
 
@post99 I think @post87 might be right, I’m sure she was apart of galaxy for years and competed with them but also coached younger teams? That’s what I heard anyway.
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77.100.10.250 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 06:13
 
Sorry late to the party. Performances over the weekend were fantastic, I seen teams up at the front for cheer and dance sledding each other on which was amazing and proud to watch a s well as all the performances. Something I am not understanding is this scoring system and how a team can come dead last when others dropped stunts and made bigger mistakes/errors? I thinks Dundee Tribe were treated unfairly.
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2.124.174.175 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 06:21
 
People need to get over themselves!!

Not only did Steve's uncle died bur so did Jo's husband the fact anyone attempted to keep Scotcheer going whilst mourning is incredible, have a little respect for both parties!! Yes it fell apart but under the circumstances it's understandable maybe people should allow it to try and be saved instead of slating it off!!

Firebird and Dazzlers where phenomenal yesterday, noone can take that away from them, CDC are just sore losers. It's a disgrace when you see ANY team ungrateful with a placing at the end of the day it's a dance competition and a bit of plastic!

Whoever is slating off Alana from Firebird you need to get a grip, I'm.sure she will give you her bottle of prosecco to drown your sorrows if your so upset about it! Jesus Christ!!

Never mind don't slate juniors cause they are only 15!!! Does anyone realise the huge problem in our society that is mental health!! The suicide rate due to online bullying!! It doesn't matter what age if you have came on here at any point in time and slated ANY other person you ought to be ashamed of yourself!! All your doing is fuelling and already huge, awful and painful problem. How do you know the impact you stupid little narrow minded comment could make to any single person or any member of a team you choose to try and destroy!!! THINK before you post!! How would you feel if you seen that comment your typing about yourself, or your child! You have no idea what's going on in people's lives!!! If you can't be nice then just don't type!


Performances were fab accross the board. Stand out winners are clear but other than that it's anyone game!! There was a huge deal of sportsmanship throughout the competition I seen lots of teams helping teams and mixed team pictures. Everyone needs to stop being so negative! Scotlands talent is insane and growing every year! We should applauded this!
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89.243.176.218 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 06:34
 
@post101 please tell me you aren't referring to senior 3 because quite frankly Dundee's routine was concerning to watch. It was quite clear the stunts were not competition ready, athletes fell to the floor multiple times.

Also their younger teams routines were cleaner than their seniors but weren't hitting the rubric for elite skills so the difficulty points won't be there, the other teams in the divisions raw scores will have been quite a bit higher therefore they still won with infractions. I am guessing you maybe just aren't familiar with the scoring rubric?
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77.100.10.250 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 07:09
 
@post103 no I was not talking about the seniors, they clearly were having a bad day on Saturday. I am new to this so I am learning all the scoring systems and scoring but surely if a stunt falls then that also means lower scoring?
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89.243.176.218 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 07:30
 
Your raw score (before infractions) is split into two main sections you have difficulty and technique. These are scored for stunts, tosses, pyramid, jumps, standing tumbling, running timing and dance. There is then an overall impression score.

The scoring rubric tells you what you have to do to get different levels of difficulty points, so if you have x number of athletes you need y to tumble to count as "most" and how many for "majority". To score max points for standing tumble most athletes need to perform two level appropriate passes. So in level three you might do standing 2 back handspring then a toe touch back handspring, this would put you in the 4.5-5 difficulty range. The judges have to put you in that range and the actual score (4.5 or 4.7 or whatever) is dependant on your skill difficult in comparison to the rest of the teams in your division.

For technique you can score between 3.5-5 (judges aren't allowed to score you lower even if every kid lands their back handspring on their knees and jumped with froggy legs). There are drivers on the rubric for what can increase your tehnique score. In stunts if they fall or are shakey this will impact your technique score but it is scoring stunts as a whole so if your routine has amazing stunt technique but one stunt group falls out of one skill it may not have a massive impact on that score.

Then you have infractions so depending on whether it is a tumble fall, stunt bobble (stunt comes down but no one hits the floor) or an athlete fall you get points deducted each time this happens. The most severe point deduction is for an athlete fall but this is only 0.75 points so if the team has max points for all their difficulty they still have a good chance of winning even with this infraction.

Hope this helps 😁
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213.205.241.63 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 07:38
 
@post103 I of course do not know who you are but I won't post anonymously, one of the reasons I have rarely ever posted on here. I am the head coach of Dundee Tribe, my seniors are my concern, although I do not disagree with you. We had a lot of ups and downs and ultimately for a team that was just put together not long ago they gave it their best shot. Don't you worry though I'll make sure not to concern you next time and can assure you they'll be on point.

Now as for my younger teams I would like to know how you can comment on their elite skills? Myself and my coaches are more than aware of the rubic and the scoring systems. So we didn't have elite skills? We had tik tok below prep level body position to body position, we also had 1/4 up to prep, with both teams also having transition from below prep level to prep level body position with a bracer. More than enough elite skills in both routines.

I don't want to comment on the places because I know as much as my team wowed me and other coaches who have told me how good they were I don't want to take away from the other teams who work just as hard. Doesn't mean I agree but bitching on a forum like this won't change anything. It just makes Scotland look like a total bitch fest, why can't we just focus on our own teams and let other coaches deal with their own. I'm pretty sure all coaches from the weekend saw their own teams flaws and plan to fix it all in training, they don't need them to be pointed out on here.

I asked my girls if they enjoyed the competition and they said they did, they told me the trophy doesn't natter, they gave it there all and made myself, other coaches and there supporters proud. If there happy then I'm happy, we will just come back stronger next season.

I never comment on here but I will not have other people comment on my team or insinuate I'm pretty much a useless coach.

I would like to say a massive well done to everyone over the weekend. In my 20 years of cheer and every year at scot cheer I have never seen to much talent. So what if routines were perfect or teams were worse than last time, mistakes happen and things change. The main thing is everyone gave their all and they all seemed to enjoy themselves doing so. I am now away to work a 12 hour shift as Cheer is still just my hobby so I won't be sitting on this all day awaiting more judgement on my team. Have a good day everybody and can't wait to see all your amazing teams next season 💕
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176.250.225.233 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 07:55
 
@post102,

CDC have been online congratulating firebird and also said before awards they would be shocked it win they expected firebird to win. Because people’s are trying to cause trouble doesn’t mean it’s cdc
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77.100.10.250 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 08:09
 
@post105 thank you for this info, I will use this now for future comps I may attend. As far as I remember (as we can’t do playbacks from the event and there’s no dvd’s) all teams had the same level of skills per category.

@post106 I totally agree, all teams were brilliant on the day and the bitching is taking away the ‘magic’ of the weekend and all the teams effort. Well done Tribe and all the other girls and boys. Have a good day at work
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213.205.241.109 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 08:58
 
Absolutely no need to bitch, the comp was great all teams and their coaches were supporting one another and I think that Team Scotland had a lot to do with that.
Seen lots of kids posting pics with kids from other teams and that’s amazing to see too.
Scotland are building the bridges brilliant.
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86.180.118.227 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 09:29
 
Dazzlers did not deserve to beat CDC regardless of what anyone says. They weren’t awful but they weren’t even close to CDC.
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85.255.233.139 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 09:29
 
Are you joking at @post109 ? No bitching ? When you have just tried to bring Jc down on the jamfest thread ??? Scotland united ? Are you for real ! I hope everyone honestly sees this now .
We all know you weren't at jamfest but trying bring Jc down . I wonder why ha
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176.250.225.233 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 10:20
 
The IP in question Is the same IP that’s been playing the mixing pot all season - same IP that commented slating CDC on one post at worlds and then sucked up there arse on another and slated JC🤣. My advise don’t rise.
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85.255.233.139 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 10:31
 
At @post112 what thread did that IP address slate cdc at worlds ? I'd love to see ?
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176.250.225.233 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 10:34
 
If you scroll back you will no doubt find it there’s a million worlds threads but your only going to publise them further it’s probs what they want
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213.205.241.41 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 10:41
 
@post111,
Scotland is very much united
Just because your team don’t want to be a part of it and because some plonker on the forum is out for trouble doesn’t mean Scotland’s not united. Yourself and your teams not been at any comps to see how nice it actually is to have everyone so friendly and supportive of each other’s teams . Don’t try turn this into something it’s not . Take JC back to the jamfest thread 👍🏻
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80.195.12.34 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 11:15
 
@post110 both dazzlers and cdc were great! However dazzlers, a small team who did take to the worlds floor this year and have put in hard work just like all other teams, to say they didn’t deserve their place is not on! cdc were messy, you couldn’t see what was going on at some points, it just seemed like they were trying to fit in too many tricks with too many people. Just my opinion but I did enjoy their routine! I just also believe placing was accurate and well deserved on all teams parts.
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148.252.128.255 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 12:17
 
So at @post115 why did you try bring down Jc to start with ? Answer that ?
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213.205.241.10 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 13:13
 
Who got the partial bid ?
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82.42.109.105 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 13:22
 
Thoughts on flames junior Pom and cdc junior Pom
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82.132.218.119 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 13:24
 
Both flames junior pom and cdc lime were amazing! Very strong routines
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90.204.12.34 | Tue 25th Jun 2019 - 16:58
 
Who should of won junior Pom cdc lime or flames
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