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ICC grand champs
Tuesday 6th of August 2019, 17:26
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94.175.133.72 | Sun 24th Feb 2019 - 12:32
 
I’ve noticed that ICC add an extra 20 points onto level 2+ teams, for basket difficulty and technique, therefore the level 2+ teams will always get higher scores than the level 1 teams, even if they aren’t as good. And level 1 teams will never win grand champions if it is across all levels, which it is at ICC. They need to start scoring like FC and jamfest, or do level 1 grand, and then level 2+ grand. If you pay attention at ICC comps, there’s never a level 1 team that gets grand, ive never seen it happen and i’ve been to both ICC blackpool comps every year.
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94.197.121.43 | Sun 24th Feb 2019 - 14:46
 
I’ve spoken to Graham about this so many times. He admits it’s unfair but nothing changes. We have level 1 teams at all ages and have been missed for grand champs so many times. When you compare the percentage of the score sheet like some do, often level 1 teams are higher but just don’t get acknowledged. Shame.
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85.255.237.89 | Sun 24th Feb 2019 - 14:56
 
ICC do score the same as FC and Jamfest as they all score on the varsity grid. I prefer how ICC do grand champs. It's the highest score of the day. Simple as really. Also they don't give 20 points for tosses it's only 10. 5 for difficulty and 5 for technique. If you looked at the score sheets better you would see that. You just sound bitter
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80.2.23.179 | Sun 24th Feb 2019 - 15:23
 
@post3, I’m not bitter, it may be on the highest score of the day but I’ve seen some amazing level 1 teams at ICC who have been beat by level 2+ teams for grand champs just because they don’t have the extra 10/20 points whatever it is, it doesn’t make a difference it’s still a lot of extra points for them
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92.40.248.96 | Sun 24th Feb 2019 - 15:58
 
Who’s won grand champs so far at ICC events?
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82.132.186.157 | Sun 24th Feb 2019 - 16:50
 
@post3, same scoresheet, but ICC give level 1 teams 0 for baskets and FC give them 10. Neither is really fair. Either a percentage should be worked out or level 1 team grand champs should be separated from other levels.
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86.159.150.137 | Sun 24th Feb 2019 - 18:45
 
@post6 incorrect. There is no score for baskets on FC scoresheet for level 1, they get a % score.
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90.211.111.85 | Sun 24th Feb 2019 - 21:56
 
@post7, my mistake, thanks for the correction!
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213.205.241.92 | Sun 24th Feb 2019 - 22:41
 
The best way to do it is a level 1 grand champ across all age divisions , a level 2 and so on so forth
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176.251.154.169 | Sun 24th Feb 2019 - 23:39
 
it should be a % for grand champs as every EP, that's just logical!
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82.153.160.92 | Mon 25th Feb 2019 - 13:44
 
ICC do the highest score - this I agree with but I also do think they should take into consideration that the level 1 teams are awarded 10 less points
- so maybe a level 1 grand champ, level 2-3 grand champ and level 4-5 grand champ

FC do judges choice - this I don't agree with as it should be down to a teams great technique and difficulty score that they focused on in training and worked so hard for

Legacy do a high point - I think this is for every level its quite nice but an awful lot of people win so takes away the speciality of that title.
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79.64.208.234 | Mon 25th Feb 2019 - 15:36
 
@post5, At ICC sountherns crimsons J2 summit team took home grand champs also crimsons S2 team took home grand champs And I believe ruby took home grand champs alongside black as well
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92.40.248.192 | Mon 25th Feb 2019 - 20:19
 
@post12, what about Easterns and northern?
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80.2.23.179 | Mon 25th Feb 2019 - 21:08
 
@post13 northerns it was white rose youth 2, white rose junior 2 and diamond ice senior 2. easterns i know east elite junior 2 won one of the titles but i’m not sure about the rest
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94.12.248.238 | Mon 25th Feb 2019 - 21:20
 
RLS Elite won Mini/Youth
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213.205.192.12 | Mon 25th Feb 2019 - 21:57
 
@post2 I don’t believe you’ve spoke to Grahem about this !
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194.53.184.97 | Mon 25th Feb 2019 - 22:19
 
@post16 spoke a few times ... at southerns this year and last year, nationals last year and at easterns last year. Didn’t go to easterns this year. Also spoke to Adele about it but she just said that’s the way it works and level 1 teams can win they just don’t!
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Sat 17th Aug 2019, 21:18
it's true though isn't it it, look at the starting line up for cheer then look at the kids that actually went, many pulled out along the year and kids had to be pulled in that hadn't originally got in to fill the places. if this was a national football team and the biggest pool of talent (let's not deny it the only two teams that compete at this level are goldstar and jc so therefore the majority of the best athletes in the country are going to be there for cheer anyways) you would be asking why arnt we putting our best foot forward. this will only happen once there is a fair and unbiased system in place and no one can blame these teams for staying clear of this until there is a better system. i applaud every kid that goes for this but it's a national team, it's just about giving these kids the experience it's about doing our best and not being a laughing stock when we step out of the mat because the kids arnt anywhere near ready for this level of competition
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Omg your all embarrassing ..broken records .. violins out 🎻
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Sat 17th Aug 2019, 20:40
It’s the CDC and Rockstar machine now, if it was fair people would be jumping at the chance to compete but it is NOT! Teams also don’t want to lose athletes to CDC coaches from getting in there ears! What coaches would want to send their athletes knowing what’s going to happen! I salute them for not sending them! TS could be amazing
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Sat 17th Aug 2019, 19:50
because some teams do not need to fall into line and work under a shady system for their athletes to be successful so choice not to be involved.
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Sat 17th Aug 2019, 19:14
Having read all comments I can’t understand why all Scottish teams can’t come together!
In doing so creating an amazing elite team of athletes,instead people are choosing to criticise those willing to stand up & be counted.
Teams such as JC & gold star would bring a lot to team Scotland however as both teams don’t seem to be involved then why knock CDC.
Having been to comps in Scotland & England CDC without question have amazing coaching staff with a wealth of experience & success.In my opinion I would be delighted for my child when old enough to compete as part of a national team.This is definitely something for children to be proud of...why any coach would stop a child participating is beyond me!!!!
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