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188.29.164.165 | Sun 6th Oct 2019 - 14:05
 
Do the Scottish teams all have friends in different teams? Or do they not speak to each other.? Noticed all the hostile views on the Scottish teams.
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82.132.218.67 | Sun 6th Oct 2019 - 15:58
 
Certain teams are friends with other teams....there are different cliques. It's all very complicated lol
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185.69.144.42 | Sun 6th Oct 2019 - 16:15
 
Scotland divided into 2 groups .
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151.230.103.168 | Sun 6th Oct 2019 - 19:08
 
Definitely 2 Camps in Scotland
Lisa & Ros v the rest of Scotland lol
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185.69.144.25 | Sun 6th Oct 2019 - 20:48
 
Yes Lisa , Roz and her followers against the rest Scotland
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176.253.120.3 | Mon 7th Oct 2019 - 12:04
 
Couldn’t be more wrong LOL how boring are yous
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86.187.174.26 | Tue 8th Oct 2019 - 10:15
 
between the higher profile teams, yes most defiantly it is split between who do not support the current way team scotland is run (not the idea of team scotland) and those who do. the rest of the teams kind of fall in between or dont really care enough to say anything as the benefits they get by being involved with the current set up (chances are the kids in the team just now would not all make it with all the bigger teams that actually train at this level already) it is a shame it is like this as their is so much talent in scotland not being utilised because of this split. just my opinion before i get shouted at for being a hater.
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5.70.108.96 | Tue 8th Oct 2019 - 16:04
 
Yeah it’s the dynamic duo Lisa and Roz (laurel and hardy more like) and all their bullying tactics against the rest who question their logic and morals! Threatens ppl and can’t back it up they really have no business running the national team if I were anyone get info on the team Select squad and have a fair chance you’ll never get it with team Scotland
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90.195.4.84 | Tue 8th Oct 2019 - 20:44
 
To be fair I doont think it's all about team scotland. Even before that there has always been teams that have aligned with others and teams that cant stand each other. I think that happens in any sport
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94.197.120.75 | Thu 10th Oct 2019 - 17:53
 
Why do cdc and goldstar hate each other so much though I don’t get it ?
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5.70.108.96 | Thu 10th Oct 2019 - 21:55
 
Lisa thinks she’s the best in Scotland and has worked her way to the position she’s in in! She’s an absolute disgrace and tbh there is other coaches who would’ve made Team Scotland so much better but they need all the cronies from CDC on the board to make sure they control it regardless of who else is in the board! Team Scotland = CDC stay well clear
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217.42.252.196 | Fri 11th Oct 2019 - 10:36
 
ideally who would be your coaches? for me it would be
cheer 4/5 joanne and claire
pom lisa joanne claire and phonix flames and possibly firebird coaches
jazz jade roz ashley
hip hop probably la coach

i know this will probs never happen but can u imagine if we had all the teams involved and really put our best foot forward this year. with an independent team it could one day happen. dance will always do relatively well for scotland but i do feel the cheer is where we will seriously be lacking again.
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51.52.245.138 | Fri 11th Oct 2019 - 13:05
 
100% Claire for cheer and pom. Get involved Goldstar! the rest of Scotland want you there can they not just put the fact CDC run it to one side.
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217.42.252.196 | Fri 11th Oct 2019 - 14:26
 
i can totally understand why they arnt involved at the minute, thats why we need a system in charge thats not bias. its a very hot topic in scotland thats not going away so eventually it will need to be addressed and sorted out for the good of the country once and for all.
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5.157.13.4 | Fri 11th Oct 2019 - 16:26
 
One thing forgotten in this conversation is, not only is it 'CDC' that have enforced control over Team Scotland through 'Sportcheer Scotland' but that they also run a shambolic event production company called ACDC (who have the worst team retention record of any EP) and are using SCS to try and boost attendance numbers at their competitions. The mere fact that Team Scotland had their showcase before ICU last year at ACDC's event surely exposes that fact but again, what are we to do about it? Probably nothing because as mentioned already, they have ACDC/CDC 'friends' within the current board structure. In my opinion, the ICU needs to look at this very closely. After all, they put them there!!?
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185.69.144.20 | Fri 11th Oct 2019 - 17:17
 
The whole team Scotland is a shambles , in my opinion it should be Claire and jade they would run it fairly , anyone from outside must wonder why they both aren't involved . I'm particular cheer , Lisa and Roz only coach up to level 2/3 . Maybe Lisa for pom but all them coming together will never happen
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31.221.79.8 | Sat 12th Oct 2019 - 08:05
 
Firebird coaches? I would only really say Natalie. Not the other girl that helps out.
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81.154.41.56 | Sat 12th Oct 2019 - 10:32
 
tbh i dont know much about firebird but i have been really impressed by the dancers this season and think they could do as well as some of the top teams. Did anyone see what happened to them with the trip they had planned?
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31.221.79.8 | Sun 13th Oct 2019 - 09:55
 
They have good dancers I agree but I’m not sure if class the coaches with the same Caliber as Claire and jade
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151.230.103.168 | Sun 13th Oct 2019 - 10:01
 
Claire & Jade to become TS coaches 2021!
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5.70.108.96 | Sun 13th Oct 2019 - 11:35
 
They have been reported to the ICU already and because Lisa is friends with Karl Olsen it’s over looked, seems she can talk her way out of the issues. With the amount of teams in Scotland and with so many teams upping their game it’s clear Scotland is in the up! However, until Lisa gives up the power she has over the Team scotland board and the sport cheer Scotland no other respectable coach is going to come forward. AC/DC is a shambles their teams were bragging about how they were winning, you have judges and staff at that event who are affiliated with CDC and Lisa and you think they are going to be judged fairly I think not and most people who attended last year saw it for what it was, a joke! Right now their is other opportunities arising in Scotland right now for athletes who want to do level 4/5 and their teams don’t offer it and that’s the opportunity I’d take them over team Scotland! Lisa thinks she is untouchable because she has her posse around her to protect her as they would bite against her they want to keep their jobs, no way CDC should have so many staff on the boards of team Scotland and sportcheerscotland make it more diverse limit it to one person from a team and make the bird a fair representation of all the teams in Scotland. They need investigated for the way they run it and how they benefit from running team Scotland as it’s quite clear they benefit they refute everything you put to them and come back with the worst excuses and then threaten people! Lisa needs to address it all but instead she’s too busy lining her pockets along with roz their for back up! Please ladies give it up already people can see through your bull!!!!
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85.255.237.215 | Sun 13th Oct 2019 - 18:05
 
I agree with all above , there are so many great teams coming through in Scotland and we should therefore have true Team Scotland national teams . However a few of these teams will never have their athletes involved because of who's running , so I say Lisa and Roz need look at this . They are being unfair . They do have followers but hopefully these coaches and teams will eventually get it .
I also agree that jade and Claire would be great team Scotland coaches as they both super talented and I think very fair , can I also say I am not affiliated to either gold star or Jc but know what both coaches can produce . I also do know however they do not get on with Lisa and Roz .
I also feel it is great that there is now other options away from
Team Scotland for athletes that want to compete at level 4/ 5 .
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188.29.165.116 | Sun 13th Oct 2019 - 19:16
 
Goldstar level 4 are at a very good standards with a summit bid so there are other opportunities. Yes not worlds but still Florida and a good opportunity for team and athletes in Scotland.
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5.70.108.96 | Mon 14th Oct 2019 - 12:53
 
Most people now realise how bias team Scotland are! Look at how staff are recruited some didn’t even submit an application and yet still managed to get a position and we can all guess who they were from! Also, look at how they gave out awards, for the love of god of me can’t work out how the girl who got cheerleader of the year award, got that because she was only in the team 2/3 weeks and she’s the one who dropped the stunt is it favouritism? What about all the girls who were there from the beginning and actually paid their way and participated in everything throughout the year and parents who worked hard to afford to send their child but yet someone walks in after a girl is kicked off the squad because she couldn’t make a practice and she gets to borrow all the gear and attend worlds and get that kind of accolade! It’s pure poison through and through! Unless your part of the clique youve no chance
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86.177.7.129 | Mon 14th Oct 2019 - 13:35
 
if you look at the girls that started the year and the final team at worlds for cheer you can see the changes that was made with kids leaving/being kicked out over the year. at least 1/3 of the girls are different to what started
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92.40.249.143 | Mon 14th Oct 2019 - 13:48
 
You do realise that all Scottish coaches can start a petition to ICU and the IOC to have those in power removed by nature of a ‘vote of no confidence’.
If you threaten the ICU with going to the IOC they will listen.
It’s all about playing politics. You only need 51% of all coaches to sign it!!

If your fed up with what’s happening then club together and do something about it otherwise no point moaning. #lisaandrozout
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86.177.7.129 | Mon 14th Oct 2019 - 14:20
 
a lot of teams probably would not do it as the benefits they get for having a kid on team scotland and actively going against the current set up, it looks good for the team in the papers and things saying you have people in the national team. with the greatest respect to the kids that are going, a lot of them would not make it if all teams where involved
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86.139.134.189 | Mon 14th Oct 2019 - 14:35
 
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5.70.108.96 | Mon 14th Oct 2019 - 14:54
 
#lisaandrozout 🤣 lets get the campaign started to get team Scotland turned around and make Scotland a force to be reckoned with and not the money grabbing, power hungry individual who line their own pockets by poaching get them out! No need to be kind or polite, Lisa and Roz show no respect to others and have bullied their way into power
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@post21 It's not just about Ellipse, the move to IO5 also impacts Midnight. If RS had two teams worth of athletes with doubles, standing fulls and solid, elite level 6 stunting, then your comment would be fair enough. But they've moved lots of athletes between Midnight and Ellipse to form two, very strong, but still level appropriate teams. I'd rather see an amazing level 5 routine than a so so level 6 and pushing athletes to perform skills that they're not quite ready to compete is a recipe for injury. We always talk about perfection before progression and that applies at Worlds level too.
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Mon 14th Oct 2019, 15:38
@Post20, it is the right decision for many teams but I don't think it is for RS. They came third at worlds 2019 (an amazing achievement) dropping a level makes it look like they are after an easier win.
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Mon 14th Oct 2019, 14:54
#lisaandrozout 🤣 lets get the campaign started to get team Scotland turned around and make Scotland a force to be reckoned with and not the money grabbing, power hungry individual who line their own pockets by poaching get them out! No need to be kind or polite, Lisa and Roz show no respect to others and have bullied their way into power
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Think before you speak

T - is it truethful
H - is it helpful
I - is it inspiring
N - is it necessary
K - is it kind
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Mon 14th Oct 2019, 14:20
a lot of teams probably would not do it as the benefits they get for having a kid on team scotland and actively going against the current set up, it looks good for the team in the papers and things saying you have people in the national team. with the greatest respect to the kids that are going, a lot of them would not make it if all teams where involved
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