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Crimson stunting
Tuesday 8th of September 2020, 19:31
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82.132.215.149 | Sun 6th Sep 2020 - 22:32
 
Anyone finding it bizarre that crimson are happily stunting without masks? Surely Gareth knows the guidelines, especially as his wife runs sport cheer England?! Makes a bit of a mockery of all of poor Angela’s hard work when even her husband ignores it?!
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85.255.236.253 | Sun 6th Sep 2020 - 23:05
 
Discraceful , shame on you Gareth and crimson athletes
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79.76.131.0 | Sun 6th Sep 2020 - 23:31
 
Crimson havent stunted without masks at all more lies yawn!
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94.6.1.64 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 12:30
 
Oh so we now can stunt with masks? I thought we were waiting for government approval of the return to play document
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92.40.191.184 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 12:53
 
@post3
Maybe you should have a look at Gareth’s recent fb post.
Even if it is an attempt at humour and a piss take he has clearly just played into the bait and proven that he is no better than anyone else and has just violated government rules. Not SCE but actual government. Social distance measures are still in place.
THIS MEANS NO STUNTING AT ALL!!!!
Again clearly he thinks he’s better than the law!
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109.249.185.106 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 12:57
 
Looks like Gareth trolled you 😂😂😂
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213.205.198.81 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 13:08
 
What a joke, they all stunt with masks on, and won’t be allowed to stunt without them
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176.249.248.238 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 13:25
 
I’ve seen a few teams stunting with masks, has something changed? I was told we couldn’t stunt because it’s against government guidance and also it would invalidate insurance? Can someone clear this up? I’m confused!?
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109.151.100.172 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 13:41
 
@post8 to my knowledge it’s still illegal under government rules
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92.40.174.86 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 13:51
 
SCUK/SCE have no hope.
If Angela’s own husband won’t follow their guidelines then why should anyone else?
I hope she is ashamed of him.
What an embarrassment. He’s clearly making a mockery out of all the hard work that Angela and all at SCE have done and the tough position they now face with UKCA.
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85.255.234.110 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 14:02
 
@post10 I absolutely agree! I would be mortified if my husband was clearly going against everything I was trying to stand for!
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176.249.248.238 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 14:10
 
@post9 how frustrating to see so many breaking the rules. I’m glad to be a part of a gym that’s putting the country before our own needs.

Hopefully won’t be long *fingers crossed*
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86.27.255.25 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 14:15
 
He also has all these big brands sponsoring him, with him being so disrespectful to the sport and the virus.

These sponsors should be taken away.
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94.2.190.127 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 15:49
 
Is this a joke !! Gareth is 100% stunting carefully with masks and having to all wash their hands and shoes before stunting like every other team including mine. And for people saying it’s against the law cheer teams are allowed to stunt with caution now. Clearly some people are jealous of these high level teams and just want to use another thing against them 😂
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92.40.189.184 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 16:12
 
I really hope that we hear about it when these gyms have to close to isolate and deep clean because they have someone test positive! I doubt they will be shouting about that though will they.
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51.105.19.137 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 16:13
 
The picture he posted shows the back spot closest to the camera not wearing her mask correctly, making it pointless.

The other photo he posted of someone 'drinking' is also irrisonsible as the virus would be on the mask... why would you touch that with your drinks bottle which you are then going to put in your mouth.... makes the mask redundent.

Both photos just show irrisonsible mask wearing which does nothing to reduce the risks to his athletes which he is trying to achieve. Pointless spending money on advisors if you dont make your athletes confirm to correct mask use.
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92.40.174.86 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 16:18
 
Yep the post he did is just a massive bs to try and cover his arse.
International Pandemic Team my arse!

Why doesn’t he pay for that team to help SCE with the return to play document getting approved then so we can all stunt??
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151.225.74.213 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 16:36
 
Wow wow wow - some of you should be ashamed and are clearly coaches as the post was in the coaches group.

He’s done everything properly and humanly possible to make sure he’s providing safe training sessions.

It’s a shame instead of being inspired people are picking it apart.
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143.159.0.30 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 16:47
 
Safe training sessions = not stunting in the current situation when the return to play document hasn’t been approved
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92.40.189.183 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 16:53
 
@post18 it was in his personal profile I think, now removed of course. I can't say if it was in a coaches group as I'm not a coach so I definitely didn't see it there. I do think it's irresponsible though especially given the fact that his wife is trying to get people to take our sport seriously and establish regulation. Makes us look stupid as a community.
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92.40.192.73 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 17:13
 
Yup, I'm not a coach and I seen it public on his profile with a dig at the forum as the caption. I like gareth and agree we should be stunting but I dont think this was a wise move
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85.255.232.96 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 18:19
 
He will laugh and this page.

So why can other teams stunt with masks but not Gareth’s team?

You clearly do not know anything about crimson if you think they would just not abide to the safety guidelines!
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2.217.167.11 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 19:12
 
Its not illegal man, the covid police aren't gonna swoop in and send you to covid jail. Schools are open again and i doubt theres much social distancing gpong on there
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85.255.236.211 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 22:16
 
@post19 the RTP document is unlikely to approved; however if you read it at this point stunting for 15 mins in masks would have been the accepted practice. If you think it’s that unsafe why are school and colleges back with zero social distancing or masks? Personally I’d feel a lot safer stunting in a gym than at school!
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91.110.102.23 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 22:49
 
Are u guys bored, go back to work
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109.151.100.172 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 23:10
 
@post23 Schools being open doesn’t make allowing stunting when it’s not legal under the current legislation any less wrong. There were 3000 deaths today. 3000. Mostly in young people. Stunting should not be happening, it’s not be approved of by SCE and goes against the current covid legislation and you can face a fine for this as a provider of a service. I never ever ever comment on this toxic forum but can we please just keep public health the number 1 priority. Coaches who are trying their best to offer safe training sessions should only do individual training (tumbling or conditioning). By stunting, that’s adding an unnecessary risk to the athletes and their households even if there are masks and hand cleaning.
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109.151.100.172 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 23:10
 
Cases not deaths*
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81.158.107.17 | Mon 7th Sep 2020 - 23:15
 
The return to play document is invalid because we have no NGB. Anyone could have submitted one for approval. You are all waiting for this document to be approved when it’s never going to happen
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94.193.180.140 | Tue 8th Sep 2020 - 00:16
 
Guidelines not law!!
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176.249.248.238 | Tue 8th Sep 2020 - 07:08
 
Why does anyone who speaks out about big teams automatically dubbed as being jealous?
We are in a global pandemic and teams not just crimson, (to my knowledge) are not following current guidelines.

Gareth is so immature it’s laughable, people are going to have opinions, people are going to disagree with it WE ARE IN A GLOBAL PANDEMIC.

I have been told that we cannot stunt because of guidelines and because it would invalidate our insurance(s) so, how are other gyms doing it? Can someone please reference the document, or whatever it is that’s been read that justifies this?
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79.76.131.0 | Tue 8th Sep 2020 - 09:09
 
@post30 please share the law/guidelines on this to prove that cheerleading stunting is not allowed in masks?

Every club is dealing with the vague rules differently how does that make someone immature

My son plays football not in a mask.. I’d rather my daughter stunt in a mask
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176.249.248.238 | Tue 8th Sep 2020 - 10:32
 
@post31 share the guidelines to prove that it is???
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51.105.19.137 | Tue 8th Sep 2020 - 10:48
 
The Guidance is that people must be 2m apart or 1m where this is not possible. There is no seperate guidance for sport...

so its 2m or 1m where this is not possible such as small shops etc

there isnt any guidance to say that you can stand as close to someone as you want with a mask on.

the mask guidance is - masks must be worn indoors such as shops, cinemas, restaurants and cafes until you are seated.

Football with have their Return To Play guidance approved on the fact that they are outdoors, players keep 2m apart and therefore do not need masks. They should not be coming within 2 m of each other. ie. playing games...
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82.132.184.95 | Tue 8th Sep 2020 - 12:27
 
Grassroots and professional football are all playing games. Show me anyone who has legs that can tackle someone from 2 meters away. People need to get into their heads that guidelines arent law and cant be enforced. 3000 cases is signifcantly lower than it was 6 months ago. Scaremongering amongst the media and social media is whats got everyone worrying. We would still be in lockdown if it was still as serious
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46.237.161.146 | Tue 8th Sep 2020 - 12:28
 
Not quite true, there is guidance for how to mitigate risk for close contact sport in the government return to recreational team sport framework. But it is there for the NGB’s to use to develop a return to play strategy (as SCUK have done). That’s how football and rugby are re-introducing tackling with similar restrictions to what SCUK have proposed for stunting (eg. fixed groups, limited time per session, etc.)
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79.76.131.0 | Tue 8th Sep 2020 - 13:20
 
@post32 your the one calling a coach immature for allowing the kids to stunt in masks so wondering what information you have to back this up?

No one has any proof they have ever stunted without masks.. with masks they are now getting abuse yet lots of other clubs are doing the same thing.
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176.249.248.238 | Tue 8th Sep 2020 - 14:11
 
@post36 no Gareth is immature for changing all his pics with silly descriptions knowing it will cause uproar and then checking the forum for comments and laughing like he is above everyone else.

Look, regardless of how I feel about Gareth, it doesn’t matter. At the end of the day, I just want to know how and why people are stunting as I say to my knowledge this is against current guidelines. The guidelines that are well knows as it’s all in shops etc. 2m apart where possible, masks indoors, wash hands etc. I am sure this is what a lot of gyms are currently adhering to, having temps check before entry, hand washing, 2m apart when training.... I am not calling them out specifically or personally I just want to know what’s going on....

Is it too much to ask for the facts, for clarification and not just how people are interpreting the information to allow them to stunt. I want to get back to the sport I love and ultimately I’m just trying to figure out how teams are all having different stances - that’s all.
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92.40.192.74 | Tue 8th Sep 2020 - 14:15
 
Well said @post37
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86.147.73.153 | Tue 8th Sep 2020 - 19:31
 
Rising Stars and Crimson are very good friends maybe they are in partnership & created their phase 2 rules together and vowed never to tell anyone their secrets!!
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Thu 17th Sep 2020, 23:06
So call the police and report them?
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Thu 17th Sep 2020, 21:08
Stars have put videos on their insta stories today of them stunting after SCE have said it’s definitely not allowed...
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Mon 14th Sep 2020, 10:25
That's what I thought, going to make for a very interesting season, that's if we get to compete at all. Even by next year I cant see large venues being allowed to open. Kids possibly only having a few months if that to work on stunts that they haven't done for the beat part of a year.
Without the income from spectator tickets, merch, plus surely they cant expect the same payment for routines. How are EPs going to survive this?
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Mon 14th Sep 2020, 09:21
@post39 Only non contact and socially distanced dancing is allowed until the distancing rules change. So no lifts etc.
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Mon 14th Sep 2020, 08:42
So with new restrictions coming into place how are the courses such as BGU continuing to run?
Will demo athletes be stunting? The last course I went on the demo team stunted to show us grips etc.
Surely this any happen now as contact is not allowed?

Interested to know if it’s still worth booking coaches onto a course they won’t get full benefit from..

Are we better just doing online qualifications instead?
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