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Bca spring spirit
Friday 31st of January 2020, 19:50
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148.252.129.92 | Tue 10th Dec 2019 - 18:49
 
What teams are competing here?
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86.27.255.76 | Tue 10th Dec 2019 - 22:45
 
Rising stars Coventry dynamite
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94.197.120.124 | Tue 17th Dec 2019 - 10:10
 
Running order is online. Looks like a good comp
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188.220.86.202 | Tue 17th Dec 2019 - 10:16
 
It brings up the winter weekender running order when I click on it?
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86.20.17.174 | Thu 9th Jan 2020 - 22:34
 
Bournemouth elite are there
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94.197.120.136 | Fri 10th Jan 2020 - 16:48
 
Click on the spectator pack on the spring spirit page on the BCA website and view the draft link not the live running order
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94.2.148.44 | Thu 23rd Jan 2020 - 10:11
 
Looks like a great running order!
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85.255.232.255 | Sun 26th Jan 2020 - 11:17
 
So sad to see and hear people from other teams bitching and being horrible about the girl on RS who threw up. People throw up, Bca got it sorted, move on. Just be nice!!!!!
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213.205.242.23 | Sun 26th Jan 2020 - 17:06
 
Well....what are people’s opinions of this comp? which teams stood out? How fair do you think the scoring was?
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85.255.234.114 | Sun 26th Jan 2020 - 17:11
 
Thought it was a great competition :) very well run
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213.205.242.69 | Sun 26th Jan 2020 - 17:11
 
Really hope the lad on rs midnight is ok,loved how all the teams supported them when they came back on.
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88.105.200.157 | Sun 26th Jan 2020 - 18:37
 
Oh no, what happened? Hope he is ok
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94.197.120.143 | Sun 26th Jan 2020 - 19:29
 
ruptured achilles
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94.197.120.143 | Sun 26th Jan 2020 - 19:30
 
that guy on hail went to hospital. not too sure if the outcome
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2.221.63.77 | Sun 26th Jan 2020 - 20:25
 
The guy from rs has snapped/erupted his Achilles apparently both the injuries happened in the same place bca at one point tried to say it was an air track
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188.220.103.201 | Sun 26th Jan 2020 - 21:55
 
They didn’t happen in the same place....
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46.193.228.20 | Sun 26th Jan 2020 - 23:52
 
@post15, incorrect. BCA never said it was the floor at all? Also they happened at different sides of the floor. Nothing to do with the floor. Both were just bad accidents.
Best of wishes to both athletes for speedy recoveries.
Great weekend all round. Routines looked good from higher levels for a first run out but still work to do. Ammo were amazing, stole the show for me.
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213.205.242.87 | Mon 27th Jan 2020 - 14:23
 
I agree @post17 Ammo were head & shoulders above the rest. Probably one of the best debut performances I’ve seen. I just hope they’re not going to have another season losing out on GC to lower level teams that just don’t have their difficulty or performance level.
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194.72.240.51 | Mon 27th Jan 2020 - 14:46
 
hahah oo @post18 that was directed at someone wasn't it...
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51.179.143.18 | Mon 27th Jan 2020 - 14:50
 
Who got grand champs at spring spirit for level 5/6?
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213.133.148.2 | Mon 27th Jan 2020 - 15:16
 
The results from Spring Spirit are here: https://my.cheerleading.org.uk/results/46/1
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86.27.255.76 | Mon 27th Jan 2020 - 15:19
 
They did 3,4,5,6 and it was cov TNT
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213.205.198.141 | Mon 27th Jan 2020 - 15:31
 
No denying that tnt put on a great performance, you just can’t compare a level 3 team to a difficulty packed level 6 team.
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92.40.248.186 | Mon 27th Jan 2020 - 15:58
 
Hate to say it but Covs routines were not packed with difficulty. I thought the scores were fair from the weekend and that’s why TNT got grand champs.
All of the 5/6s had very easy watered down basic routines that just had big performance values. You just have to be able to see through the performances to see the true value of the routines.
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94.2.148.44 | Mon 27th Jan 2020 - 16:28
 
A lot of deductions all around!
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185.69.145.92 | Mon 27th Jan 2020 - 16:36
 
@post24 couldn’t agree more. Cov routines are always style over substance
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82.40.170.42 | Mon 27th Jan 2020 - 19:10
 
Some bitter buggers about ...... very sad
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188.220.103.201 | Mon 27th Jan 2020 - 19:16
 
I’d say that Ammo could more than likely upgrade, but it definitely didn’t look like a “watered down” routine to me!
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92.40.248.186 | Mon 27th Jan 2020 - 19:53
 
@post27 what’s bitter about the comment?
Clearly someone has watched the routine and seen that there is more lower level skills than it appears. That’s not being bitter just an observation.
If anyone has any vids I’d love to see and count actual level appropriate skills of the teams myself too.
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82.40.170.42 | Mon 27th Jan 2020 - 20:18
 
Cov routines are always style over substance - sounds bitter to me - but that’s just me looking at what’s printed right in front of me as opposed to ”view“ on a an entire programmes routines
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82.40.170.42 | Mon 27th Jan 2020 - 20:20
 
Ps .....who should people send the video too 😉
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thatgirl (123) | Tue 28th Jan 2020 - 13:51
 
The RS & Bournemouth Hail runs were so good before their injuries. I hope both athletes recover soon.

Also, Ammo smashed it. Yes, TNT had a maxed out routine so beat them to Grand Champs in level 3 - but that doesn't take away from Ammo's hard work. Cov routines are entertaining as well as difficult. You could see that 1 or 2 stunt groups were watered down but for this time of the year and first comp, their routine is difficult. 1 and a half around from extension. Pssh! Bye haters!
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213.205.242.243 | Tue 28th Jan 2020 - 17:20
 
Thoughts on Cov LG and RS Andromeda Senior 5?
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86.151.209.77 | Tue 28th Jan 2020 - 23:48
 
Andromeda were brilliant!!! Definitely deserved the win
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81.154.143.93 | Thu 30th Jan 2020 - 07:48
 
I think pretty much every worlds team (or level 5.6,7) that attended that weekend had “watered down” stunts. It was most peoples first time competing? RS had watered down routines too, not just Cov. Give them all time!
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213.205.198.236 | Thu 30th Jan 2020 - 12:50
 
@post29 there are a couple of videos from the BCA on YouTube
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213.205.192.153 | Thu 30th Jan 2020 - 21:33
 
Are LG or Andromeda going for bids this year do you know?
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213.205.194.126 | Thu 30th Jan 2020 - 22:10
 
@post37 think both teams have athletes who are too young for IO
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90.200.7.144 | Fri 31st Jan 2020 - 19:50
 
Wow very talented for such a young age then. Some of the flyers look younger, both teams very strong future talent.
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Wed 5th Aug 2020, 02:25
I just don’t think you can claim to be “a Scottish team” if the coaches that are involved don’t train their own teams. No one is also expecting anyone in TS to have that their sole livelihood, don’t many coaches have other jobs anyway ? So how can the professionals on TS not just be qualified coaches that don’t have their own program. It’s not rocket science
I’m not sure how it works in other sports ? Does national teams managers still continue to manage a personal team /club , along with a national status ? What’s the deal with football ? Does the Scotland manager still manage a premiership team ? I don’t think so ? Conflict of interest I imagine

We shout about wanting recognition, no bias , fair play , but the facts are the Cheer and dance industry in Scotland is not fair play. It is not as simple as you win and your the best or not. There is politics involved, judges friendly with coaches , coaches purchasing choreography from Americans when they should do it themselves. Coaches poaching athletes from other teams etc . It can’t just be support one another when it’s not a level playing field. It’s bitchy and backstabbing , jealously and cliche .. within clubs / outwith clubs , nature of all sports. So In order to make some control of it all the rules should be clearer . Team Scotland should be coaches who don’t have their own clubs ( but obviously jobs outwith) and coaches should be reprimanded if they approach athletes from another club saying “come to us” it’s simply unethical , heartbreaking for those coaches who have tried to better their students and who have trained those kids for years . The fact is the coach who is poaching is self centred , who doesn’t care about the sport it’s their own self gain wherever it’s happening. The have no value or respect for these teams they target the children from.

I genuinely feel sorry for the passionate and very talented coaches who try to do it their way and build their teams from nothing. If my daughters ever have schools of their own I will fully encourage them to not poach , not pay someone else to do what I’ve spent all my money on teaching them how to do it themselves.
Time this country valued those who put the work in and do achieve the results making it to The Dance Worlds etc. It can be done , JC , goldstar , Brisbane etc. Talented Scottish coaches not paying Americans to do their jobs .
If you can’t coach your work for your own program you shouldn’t be coaching for the national team , end of story - what a joke .
Why should anyone take it serious when coaches don’t value or respect each other !
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Wed 5th Aug 2020, 00:54
In an ideal world TS coaches would of course be at the top of their game and employed solely to coach for our country!!! Im sure alot of sports have struggled with these issues in the past!!
We all struggle ever day to fight the outdated stereotype that surrounds cheer...fundamentaly in this country it is a female orientated sport and as Coaches/ Parents/Athletes we should all be aware of supporting each ither as women!!!
Our sport will never be taken seriously when these issues are tolerated.
There needs to be an overall more professional approach to our national team....totally unified, without bias!!! As a parent I would be happy to pay a yearly fee to support our national team...if we all did that it could be managed as an independent programme and give the best of the best the opportunity to go and win for Scotland!!!!
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Tue 4th Aug 2020, 23:19
@post54 So they should be top of their game, good enough to be of national coach standard, but NOT be a full time coach with their own team? You must realise that's absurd. With the amount in fees TS athletes would need to pay to make that feasible would make it completely unaffordable - never mind the fact theres multiple coaches needed for various disciplines.

As for the 'authentic Scottish coach' arguement, I'm genuinely so confused as to how anyone would think bringing in someone who coaches at a world class level is a bad thing. If anything I think it's a great thing to invest in someone to come in and teach the kids and coaches. Also it really shows that a lot of the posters on here are cheer mums who dont seem to appreciate that as a kid having a camp with a coach from a team you've looked up to for years is a great experience.

It doesnt seem like a lot of the people posting here really care about the childs experience at all, if it were your own child who at the end of a season felt they would thrive more and be happier at another team would you really tell them they couldnt take that opportunity? I do, however, appreciate how upsetting it could be to a coach of their previous team dont get me wrong. I dont know anything about any 'poaching' but as cheer grows in Scotland there are so many teams cropping up in areas so close to each other, back in the original team scotland days it would have been a lot harder to move team to say Glasgow when you were from Dundee. Now there are much more options in so many areas of Scotland that changing teams is hardly new. I think you would be hard pushed to find any team that doesnt have atleast one athlete that has cheered on a different team before.
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Tue 4th Aug 2020, 23:02
@Post49, well results can single out ‘better’ coaches, but also those willing to learn and grow. In my opinion getting choreo or camps from the US can be a sign of good coaching, it shows you’re willing to learn from the best in the business. Some coaches do other health and fitness courses or mental health qualifications to help support their athletes, and that makes them stand out from the rest.

Realistically national coaches will have to have their own programme since the TS jobs aren’t full time and don’t pay well, you can’t expect anyone who’s any good to give up their own gym for it.
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