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Tuesday 7th of July 2020, 09:53
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82.132.214.169 | Sun 28th Jun 2020 - 22:30
 
The line up of apocalypse. WOW
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80.2.21.125 | Sun 28th Jun 2020 - 22:58
 
Would be more impressive if the athletes were actually interested in the team itself and not just the free training/comp fees they’re being offered for being from a well known team/retired from well known teams. Kims words “looking for athletes from a top experienced team” really sound good right!!!
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78.105.217.16 | Sun 28th Jun 2020 - 23:09
 
Giving back to retired athletes
Great for the sport
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151.229.5.29 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 00:29
 
I wonder how all of RLS’ actual members feel knowing that part of the fees they pay are going towards paying for random people’s competition fees, and the fact that they have to pay to train there when all these new people can come and don’t have to pay because they’ve come from a big programme
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86.173.146.15 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 06:12
 
I find the fact that they have done a "shortlist reveal" video a bit awkward. These people have been invited to attend day 2 of tryouts - surely they should be allowed to do that a bit more privately so that their most recent teams don't know they are looking around .
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185.192.70.29 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 07:08
 
How embarrassing for those who don’t get on. If I was managing their current team, I wouldn’t have them back.
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95.149.40.159 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 07:08
 
@post5 I agree totally.
Bit confused is this team planning on going for a worlds or not? Originally it was advertised as no Worlds pressure now there is talk of going for a bid. Also some of these athletes haven’t cheered for years!!! Will be interesting how this plays out and if it actually remains free for the athletes. This club doesn’t have the best reputation for seeing things through. Aka MK and RLS Summit team!!!
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77.96.150.112 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 08:49
 
I think how the actively advertised to other people businesses is disgusting
Kim should be embarrassed
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92.40.169.4 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 09:09
 
Half are from cov and crimson
To me it’s another typical example of someone putting a team together and just taking athletes from other programmes.
No coaching or training goes into this.
RLS has been around for a while so why not build your own programme to have an elite team..
IMO I have more respect for the smaller programmes that have elite teams of athletes those coaches have brought up through the ranks not athletes that every other Tom, dick or Harry has trained and you just offer them a better slice of pie.
For retired athletes then great but for some of those on the shortlist it’s a huge step down in terms of the coaches you’d have.
Kim isn’t all that and Toby! Ha, he’s barely an athlete let alone elite level coach.
In the words of HSM stick to the status quo.
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85.255.234.21 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 09:31
 
Well I think some coaches & programmes should watch out!
I think the talent on the team is stacked & they’re going to be the ones to watch
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78.105.217.16 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 09:56
 
@post9 you mean exactly what the teams you mentioned have been doing to small gyms for years???
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81.103.235.116 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 09:57
 
I think the initial goal was to attract retired athletes and give back to them after investing so much time and money into the sport over the years. This is a great start. I can’t wait to see the final line up, with all their experiences this should be a great team. However I don’t like how Kim has done the reveal video too early on. I feel she should of waited till the final cut xx
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90.194.16.47 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 11:02
 
Am I the only person that doesn’t know what this is?!
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82.132.234.16 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 11:59
 
I’ve just caught up. Were these athletes told that their pictures would be used online in such a way? Were they given a chance to notify current teams of a decision to move on? Are those teams ok with their uniforms and branding being used by another team? A Wry unprofessional start to a new team.
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86.173.146.15 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 13:24
 
I'm sure the athletes would have given permission for their info to be shared - I hope it wasn't in the small print!

I think people are allowed to shop around but shouldn't be plastered all over social media like this. "Haha look at the people considering jumping ship" ... It is also a bit embarrassing for anyone who doesn't make the final cut. It feels like they are trying to show how exclusive they are - look at these people that are interested in us.

Do your reveal video once people make the team!
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80.2.23.158 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 13:29
 
@post10 , You’re delusional right? You think a team full of second hand athletes from bigger gyms and retired athletes are going to be the “ones to watch”? No. They’ll be traumatised from the downgrade once they realise it if anything.
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81.103.235.116 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 13:50
 
@post16 are you delusional? Majority of the athletes have only just retired. There’s a lot of talented athletes. It’s going to be so good to watch and epic... if they’re used right. You have the likes of Tyla and the Leaper twins... Jack, Eshe!
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80.2.23.158 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 14:10
 
@post17 no i’m alright, thankyou for your concerns though. I think you’ll find a lot of the athletes retired between 1-4 years ago. And the ones who have “only just retired” or the ones that still cheer and have moved teams, aren’t the same level as what they look in the videos. And “if they’re used right”?? They’re joining RLS so ofcourse they won’t be
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82.132.215.198 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 15:01
 
@post18 someone’s angry...
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80.2.21.253 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 15:54
 
@post19 very far from angry, just quite embarrassed for UK cheer
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86.9.54.18 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 17:37
 
If it’s for retired athletes, when half of the team competed this season? I think it’s a good idea. However a lot of big names in the UK cheer and will be interesting to see how it turns out!
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95.149.40.159 | Mon 29th Jun 2020 - 17:38
 
There are a few ex Coventry athletes and only a couple existing. So not much loss for Coventry. Especially as the guys want to retire from competitive cheer so good on um. No team has lost anyone if they are retiring as they were leaving anyway.
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80.82.136.190 | Tue 30th Jun 2020 - 07:53
 
This will be full of athletes who have so much experience that they will all try and coach from within and will just argue with each other. They will have no good direct coaching from the outside and Kim will be influenced by all the big names to 'do it their way' and so it will be far from an enjoyable experience with productive sessions.

Also really sucks to be an RLS athlete and have this team using the gym and coaching you pay for, for free and have your fees pay for them to go to competition.
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95.149.40.159 | Tue 30th Jun 2020 - 10:18
 
Fancy offering free training at a gym that’s continued to charge full fees through these difficult times. That’s not how you pay back people’s loyalty by using their money to fund this 😡
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Cartman (23) | Tue 30th Jun 2020 - 10:44
 
@post4, Disclaimer, I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know if people have said the same.

Charging lower level participants higher fees to cover elite level training is completely normal and has been going on in gymnastics clubs forever.

It's not only normal, it can also be very beneficial to the club. Having a high level team in your program can seriously boost the whole program, popularity, amount of athletes wanting to join, athletes aspiring to make the elite team...etc. Not to mention the effect it can have on pushing lower level members to a higher standard + having these athletes available for potential coaching and training with lower levels. Maybe elite athletes help out guiding lower level stunting.

I'm sure the value the elite team brings the program is well worth the increased cost to members.
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95.149.40.159 | Tue 30th Jun 2020 - 10:46
 
Agreed @post25, but in the times we are currently in I’m not sure it’ll be that easy for paying parents to accept.
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80.82.136.190 | Tue 30th Jun 2020 - 10:55
 
i would agree is the team was made up of home grown elite athletes... but its just people coming and joining for a free ride
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Cartman (23) | Tue 30th Jun 2020 - 11:07
 
@post26, well the value still remains the same

@post27, yes typically the elite athletes would be local home grown but regardless of who they are, they still add the same value to the club. Of course having locally based people is better because they can hang around the gym more often and interact with the general club more.
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90.193.58.7 | Tue 30th Jun 2020 - 11:51
 
I can’t fathom why some of these athletes are dropping top class, best in the country coaching for a team that have a track record of disorganisation, poor choreography and coaching and quite obviously misplaced morals. Mind blown. I wonder how those national team athletes are also going to feel asking to go back to the same coaches that work with them for that?!
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148.64.26.98 | Tue 30th Jun 2020 - 15:31
 
live and let live - get out of other peoples business and get a life!
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86.189.132.55 | Tue 30th Jun 2020 - 15:31
 
What i find the most amusing is Kim bragging about sponsoring a complete team for a year then a few days later begging for money via a gofundme to "keep the gym afloat"... at least have the decency to wait a few days or just be honest about what the money is for. Should be ashamed to be lying about money (getting donations from existing athletes parents etc to fund this other team under the premise of needing money to stay afloat.) It's a complete joke and I can't believe anyone would donate.
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80.2.23.93 | Tue 30th Jun 2020 - 16:48
 
It’s not just the money side. It’s the pure fact some of these “top athletes” have completely gone behind their current teammates and coaches back to join this team? Where is the loyalty? After all the opportunities some of these top teams have given the athletes? You’re obviously going to get a few laughs. Can’t say you didn’t expect it
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94.193.244.217 | Tue 30th Jun 2020 - 17:57
 
I think as it was specifically targeted at retired athletes there’s really no point in being upset and thinking that people are being disloyal? Or thinking that it was ever encouraging disloyalty - retired athletes aren’t leaving any one gym for another lol they’re retired... the fact it’s free cheerleading is purely what’s drawn everyone in, makes sense as our sport is very expensive and a lot of the time the reason why people quit is because of the amount it costs. Think it will be interesting to see how it pans out!
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thatgirl (123) | Tue 30th Jun 2020 - 21:38
 
This team found a hole in the market for the sport, and are capitalising on it. I'm pleased to see it to be honest. It's sad that really talented people with lots of experience have to quit the sport due to just life/adulting reasons.

Hopefully we can see more of these sort of teams in the future, with other programmes potentially offering high level (5/6/7) non worlds teams with little commitment and low cost.
Looking forward to seeing some of the cheer greats dust off their Nfinities! The Leaper twins are my favourite. Sad that they ever stopped tbh. Lots of really good talent, this team is gonna be good.
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cheertimes (17) | Tue 30th Jun 2020 - 21:51
 
@post34 who said they're non worlds. From what I heard they're going for a bid
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81.100.240.241 | Tue 30th Jun 2020 - 22:03
 
Just looked on their instagram and cant see anywhere where it promotes this to retired athletes?? Just 'we are looking for experienced top level athletes from throughout the UK'. I get the idea behind this but am sad to see so many athletes willing to jump ship with no loyalty and the fact there arent many internal athletes.
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92.40.189.38 | Tue 30th Jun 2020 - 22:17
 
@post36, Well I wouldn't expect many internals. They don't have higher level teams do they?
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80.195.137.27 | Tue 30th Jun 2020 - 22:34
 
Strange to say this team is needed to give older athletes a chance and that their places should be funded by younger athletes. Surely older athletes have jobs etc. so can afford their own gym fees. It’s the younger ones who’s parents have to cover their costs?!
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thatgirl (123) | Wed 1st Jul 2020 - 00:43
 
@post35, they could well be going for a bid, actually. From Toby's initial FB post advertising this team it came across that they might not. "Low commitment, low cost, low pressure..."

@post36 FB posts by the individual folks organising it called for retired athletes or those looking to retire. Cheer for free is very tempting to be fair. Lol!
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151.229.5.29 | Wed 1st Jul 2020 - 00:48
 
They are going for a bid. It is definitely planned as being a worlds team
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95.149.40.159 | Wed 1st Jul 2020 - 08:16
 
@post39, @post40,
Yet another example of Kim’s backhanded ways. We’re not for a bid to entice athletes then once they have tried out turns the tables about a bid.
Just be careful to the athletes on the team because I expect the free training won’t materialise either. They will end up paying in some way. You watch. Nothing Kim does is up front and honest which is why she’s had some many falling outs over the years. She doesn’t have a good reputation
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86.167.32.65 | Wed 1st Jul 2020 - 09:38
 
@post41
Please be careful with what you say unless you have concrete proof and can offer actual examples to back up what you're saying about Kim's business reputation.
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213.205.242.31 | Wed 1st Jul 2020 - 10:18
 
Good luck to them. I’m sure the coaches of the big programmes aren’t flapping. There’s a reason why they’re successful and I doubt they’re concerned about ex-athletes or current athletes who have turned coats. Probably makes their jobs easier to be honest! I think what’s sad is the fact they’re only wearing the RLS uniform for the free ride. Doesn’t exactly cheer of pride for your squad, does it? Not sure how that ethic draws athletes to the club either.... That said, it’ll be exciting and good to see so much talent.
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92.40.191.115 | Wed 1st Jul 2020 - 12:11
 
It’s not gunna matter what talent try’s out. At end of day if the standard of coaching isn’t there then the talent is wasted.
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90.216.44.199 | Wed 1st Jul 2020 - 14:00
 
Fantastic idea... although I think it should have been set up as a collab with a couple of clubs or even a new programme name with new branding.
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51.241.122.42 | Wed 1st Jul 2020 - 19:49
 
Disaster written all over it. Coach with no experience at this level. Athletes who are expecting a free ride, and a laugh, yet to still be competitive. Are they expecting to have a free ride to worlds, too?
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cheertimes (17) | Wed 1st Jul 2020 - 21:13
 
There are some excellent athletes on the shortlist but who will get the deciding vote? No head coach to make decisions and all those personalities with all of their different training trying to have their say. No one is paying anyone (except for the poor rls athletes and the fools on go fund me) so who do their loyalties lie with? Could call themselves anything, enter any comps, have any uniform, who’s to say rls are in charge of any of that. Athlete led is what Kim said. Poaching athletes from other teams? Tut tut Kim. You’re always all over Facebook moaning about cov trying to poach your kids and now you’re doing exactly the same but it’s ok cos it’s a high level, athlete led team. Shame on you. Hope the athletes see this for what it is
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82.132.185.119 | Thu 2nd Jul 2020 - 21:02
 
Which Cov athletes are shortlisted?
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46.237.174.227 | Thu 2nd Jul 2020 - 21:51
 
Some of the shortlist videos look really old. Interesting to see if those athletes still have those skills, especially the ones who have been retired for a few years!
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188.29.164.51 | Fri 3rd Jul 2020 - 01:38
 
@post49, Yeah some of those clips are 4/5 + years old judging from the gyms they were filmed in!
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86.166.183.14 | Sat 4th Jul 2020 - 22:00
 
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77.96.150.112 | Sun 5th Jul 2020 - 15:46
 
Don't offer a team for free if you need a go fund page to keep your doors open.
Don't openly advertise to top athletes from other gyms


RLS has the class of a rhino at a tea party. I can not wait to watch the whole thin unfold!
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86.9.54.18 | Tue 7th Jul 2020 - 06:11
 
Cov is now obviously struggling for boys from their recent posts..
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80.82.136.190 | Tue 7th Jul 2020 - 07:33
 
They always seperatly advertised for boys, but usually to let them know they can train for free on a scholorship if they join.
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82.132.238.185 | Tue 7th Jul 2020 - 08:49
 
I don’t think cov are struggling for boys because of RLS. Theres only one boy from cov. Majority of the boys are from Unity and RS
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95.149.40.159 | Tue 7th Jul 2020 - 09:53
 
It’s the normal recruitment drive. The sport struggles for boys in general
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